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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 15, 2009 9:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Submarine Lesson #2 (Non Dead for the folks who didn't see Lesson #1)

Thanks MJ! Fantastic stuff.

I recalled you mentioned you graduated in 83 from USNA; the friend I was mentioning before graduated in 79, so not that far apart. Was his class the last of the "segregated" ones (ie, all male)? I suppose you were there during the "transition"...not that this means squat, but somehow was reminded of it...hard to believe it's been alomst thirty yrs since gals came on board!

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Poster: Bassy Twang Date: Jan 15, 2009 10:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Submarine Lesson #2 (Non Dead for the folks who didn't see Lesson #1)

If any of the youth out there needs a schooling/Liberty early education. Tell'um Seaman sent ya.

good luck

http://www.csum.edu/

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Jan 15, 2009 10:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Submarine Lesson #2 (Non Dead for the folks who didn't see Lesson #1)

WT -

Women entered the Naval Academy in the summer of '76 - the first class to graduate was 1980. They were my seniors when I was a Plebe. When I think back, the enviroment was still openly hostile towards women and unless it got real bad, was tacitly tolerated. I distinctly remember an interview where one of the seniors was asked how he felt about women being in his class. He was dating one of the female midshipmen and his response was along the lines of "I'm okay with it. I should be, I'm dating one of them. But it's okay, she's one of the few good looking ones." No one batted an eye.

Thankfully some progress has been made. I'm sure there are pockets of testosterone left over but the atmosphere is much better today.

BTW - if you look closely at a class ring for the class of '79 you can find the letters 'LCWB' inscribed.

"Last Class With Balls"

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 15, 2009 11:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Submarine Lesson #2 (Non Dead for the folks who didn't see Lesson #1)

Ah, that makes perfect sense. IE, why he spoke to me about a few times, etc., etc. He was (is) the sort to be fine with it, and having had four daughters, two of which are in the service, it makes sense (one even is an USNA grad too)!